Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Today we're hanging out. I'm Stuart Amadon, pastor at Christchurch Opelousis. I'm hanging out with Jonathan Dupuis again. My old friend Jonathan Dupuis. And we've been reminiscing about the memories of all the cool things that we used to do.
[00:00:09] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:00:10] Speaker A: So Jonathan and I came up together in ministry at Open Door in Lafayette.
And Jonathan had this vision for a young boys outdoors program. Because you came up in Royal Rangers.
[00:00:24] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:00:25] Speaker A: And it was awesome.
[00:00:26] Speaker B: Outpost 84, you still got it cold. Look at this. Who's this guy? Who are these people right here, man? This picture.
Look at this guy. That's me.
[00:00:35] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. That's me. There's. There's. Look at that facial hair. It was a problem. It was a problem. I thought I had guns too. I thought I was bowed.
[00:00:43] Speaker B: You need to go home and give your wife a hug and just be like, you've suffered through a lot over the years.
[00:00:49] Speaker A: The Lord has been very kind to us. But so we. So we have a long history together of, you know, knowing each other but also doing specifically, like, outdoors related ministry things.
[00:01:04] Speaker B: And so we challengers.
[00:01:06] Speaker A: We started texting. Yes. Oh, dude.
We started texting and we were like, we should. We should make a show about this.
Because one of the things that we found, that I've found that you found, we've talked about this a little bit too, is that there's a lot of.
There's a lot of families struggling with how to be families. Yeah.
And there's a lot of reasons to that. Like, we could talk about how men don't know how to be men anymore, women don't know how to be women anymore, parents don't know how to discipline and train their children anymore.
And I'm not trying to punch people as I say those things.
I mean them quite literally. You know, it takes time.
We are kind of in a state, as a society of being in the ruins, and it takes time to rebuild from that. And one of the fundamental building blocks of any culture, of any society, if not the fundamental building block, is the family.
And so what we wanted to try and do with this show.
[00:02:18] Speaker B: What we.
[00:02:19] Speaker A: Want to try and accomplish here is we want to help families do that again, but through. Through a particular mechanism. And this is the part that I think is interesting.
We want to inspire and motivate families to.
This is going to sound like some weird Play 60 commercial with, like the NFL. We want to inspire and motivate them to go outside.
[00:02:46] Speaker B: Doesn't that sound terrible.
I mean, not to jump too far ahead, but when people don't know what to do as far as adventure, as far as get. Getting out and having an experience, if you just go outside for long enough, like back in the day, what did you, what did your mom and dad tell you to do? Go play outside. Get outside, Go play.
[00:03:03] Speaker A: And then you don't get to be in the house.
[00:03:05] Speaker B: Yeah. You would get bored, get out. And then once you got bored, Right. On the other side of that, it's called adventure or like legal matters. Whatever the problem is, that is still out there, that's still waiting for us.
[00:03:16] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. There is a lot of constraint and parameters that we have put on our children and on our families as a people that we did not grow up with. I'm 40 years old, you're 40 years old. We're two 40 year olds, 40 in the month and we've got some years on us now. I feel like we can say stuff like this.
When we were coming up, I remember I would literally just go outside of my yard and swing a stick for hours.
[00:03:49] Speaker B: And you would kill things with your stick. You would.
[00:03:53] Speaker A: Or you would. Or it would be a sword, or it would be a wizard stack, or.
[00:03:57] Speaker B: It would be a stick against your brother.
Sometimes a stick is a stick.
[00:04:02] Speaker A: It's only a stick. That's right, only a stick. But so what we kind of want to help people do again is recapture that, like get back to that place again. And so we thought it would be a great idea to put together a show to just say, hey, if you're trying to get back to this, if you're trying to maybe like figure your family out again and you want to use the outdoors as a catalyst to do that. If you want to learn how to be a man, if you want to teach your boys to be men, if you want to bring your family together and utilize the outdoors, exploration nature as a catalyst to do that. Here's the mechanism. Yeah, here's. Here's how to do it. And Jonathan, you've been doing this for how long?
[00:04:42] Speaker B: Man?
[00:04:42] Speaker A: Good grief.
[00:04:44] Speaker B: For probably. So I'm 40 now, so probably 20 years in some unofficial way. And then more than maybe 10, 15 years. Very purposefully and consciously under, Under Dupuy Guides.
[00:04:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:04:57] Speaker B: And then that, that's taken.
All right, so Dupuy Guides is mainly a window or a logo or a brand that's put on what Jonathan Dupuy has been up to. And then. And then that actually has spread to something way more organized and structured. Where other people were involved.
[00:05:14] Speaker A: Yeah, but.
[00:05:14] Speaker B: But anyway, totally lost track of what I was trying to say there.
[00:05:21] Speaker A: That's okay.
We're talking about bringing families in on this thing.
[00:05:25] Speaker B: You.
[00:05:25] Speaker A: Your history of doing that.
[00:05:27] Speaker B: That's right. And that was like bringing friends, hiking in Clark Creek back in the day in college. That's 20, 25 and 6 and 7.
[00:05:35] Speaker A: I remember that.
[00:05:35] Speaker B: So. So those going. Going to Clark Creek with some. One of the dads of one of our friends. And then that turned into me bringing people to Clark Creek. And then I would bring friends hiking and camping. And then that. That suddenly got branded whenever I began to. To do these like, lupus treks, which is just all night treks until the sun. I remember that would come up.
[00:05:54] Speaker A: I remember seeing you do that.
[00:05:55] Speaker B: So then Dupuis Guides gets established as a. A branding, but also a lens to look through and to. To experience.
And then it just. Then it gets more vision. You know, where I started to see that the culture has lost its definition of what a man is, what a young man is. And so there's ways to gather older men and younger men together so they can just communicate, they can interact.
[00:06:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:17] Speaker B: And then purposeful teaching times.
[00:06:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:21] Speaker B: So then, you know, that developed into. Into manhood overland events. It was just. And then there's like youth group events for churches, men's events, hikes that people would ask for me to bring them on a bachelor party. I mean, who doesn't want to do a backpacking trip?
[00:06:34] Speaker A: A Christian one.
[00:06:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:36] Speaker A: Not. Not that kind.
[00:06:38] Speaker B: It was. It was pretty. It's pretty amazing to do a bachelor party. Yeah, it was just. It was just. Well, this would be crazy.
[00:06:43] Speaker A: We were hiking.
[00:06:43] Speaker B: Yeah. We're going to. We're going to hike.
Like, no way. I'm telling you. We're going to, like, hike, and then we're going to sleep well, we're going to walk some more. It's going to be. That's going to be awesome.
[00:06:52] Speaker A: So you said this thing a second ago about helping young boys learn how to become men. I remember. You might not remember this at all, but I remember when we were. When we were at Open Door together and we had the kids come in from the not so great part of town. We were trying to do outreach ministry.
[00:07:13] Speaker B: To these boys, which was only two blocks away.
[00:07:15] Speaker A: Which was only two blocks away. Yeah, it was close. The not so great part of town was close. And we had this one particular kid. I can't remember what his name was, but he was impossible to manage.
[00:07:29] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:07:29] Speaker A: Like, he would come and it was.
[00:07:31] Speaker B: Was a little Hispanic kid, A young, young guy.
[00:07:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Don't say his name. Don't say his name. But it was.
[00:07:36] Speaker B: I know his name.
[00:07:36] Speaker A: You know exactly who I'm talking about. So. And he would just, he would come and we couldn't manage him. We couldn't get him to do anything. And then one day I remember looking over at you and I saw you and him crouched down and, and looking in the grass.
And I walked over because he was chill all sudden, like he was bringing.
[00:07:55] Speaker B: Back some memories, man.
[00:07:56] Speaker A: And centered and like focused in deep. This is a kid who's normally bouncing off the walls. He will intentionally find out what you want him to do and then not.
[00:08:04] Speaker B: I think I remember this. I remember it hitting me like this kid is, is being a child again instead of a literal gangster. Because these little, these kids, the girls have to be. They are in the, in the hood, in these hard environments, these trailer park environments. The girls are preyed on pretty early. And then the boys have to be very violent and, you know, animalistic or at least put. Give the appearance.
And so in these kids programs, I remember when you get them on the bus and come to church after a few weeks, they would, they would realize this is a, this is a safe place to be a kid again. And then their, the child would come out of them. But with this particular kid, he was so violent. He was so crazy. Yes, you had it. I didn't see him as a. I didn't see the childish part of him until you like pulled him away one on one, off to the side and just messed around the grass like that. And then he's like. Then all of a sudden he's focusing on the grass.
[00:08:56] Speaker A: Well, do you remember what it was though?
[00:08:58] Speaker B: No.
[00:08:59] Speaker A: You found a snake.
[00:09:00] Speaker B: Oh.
And he was always been very healing.
[00:09:03] Speaker A: He was well, but. But he was dialed in like he was immediately like, I got, man, I don't want to see the snake. And I remember what you said to me like I walked over was like, jonathan, what's going on? What's happening right now?
And you, I still remember it. You looked at me and you said, he's just a little boy trying to look at a snake, man. Everything just changed, man. He went from terror. And it was. There was something about that moment that really impressed me and impressed upon me the need for us to have systems like this developed. Kids need to be in uncontrolled environments.
Kids need to experience real risk.
They need to have adventures. Like right now, the life of most people's children is they, they come home from school at the end of the day, they sit down in their air conditioned house, they go walk over to their Nintendo or their iPad and they have pretended ventures that don't actually encompass any risk at all. And then they go to dinner and they go to bed and that's their whole life. It's only there's no real risk. Whereas if you incorporate anything outside, there is, you might get hurt.
[00:10:16] Speaker B: It's unscripted.
[00:10:17] Speaker A: You know, you might like, I think I'm gonna jump out of this tree. Well, that might go poorly.
[00:10:22] Speaker B: My little boy was jumped, was jumping off of something today when my wife was on the phone with me.
You would hear, you would hear like, oh, he's going for it. He's go, oh, he's, he's rolling on the ground. Okay. He's always doing it again. He's back on top of it.
[00:10:35] Speaker A: But that, but that's one of the mechanisms that you can incorporate in things like this. This is, this is why I think having some kind of mechanism that teaches and trains and brings about people to be able to do this, this, this lifestyle of, of the out of doors again as a training mechanism is important.
It reminds us of who we are now. And you, you've done this with churches, but one of the things that you told me most recently is you also have made a point to do it with your families. Yeah.
[00:11:03] Speaker B: So this is like this.
Yeah.
[00:11:05] Speaker A: So you have little kids.
[00:11:06] Speaker B: When I was getting, getting, when I was dating, courting. Sorry, I'm so here.
[00:11:11] Speaker A: We're Christians.
[00:11:12] Speaker B: Saw the gun, saw the pistol.
[00:11:13] Speaker A: Get out of here, get that out of here.
[00:11:17] Speaker B: And Pastor, somebody's going to take this.
[00:11:19] Speaker A: That moment of the episode be like, I knew that St. Amon was crazy. I knew it was. They're going to come after.
[00:11:24] Speaker B: He just held up an innocent animal is like slow, like slicing it as a threat to me.
[00:11:27] Speaker A: People are going to believe that.
[00:11:31] Speaker B: But they were saying, do not alter what you're doing in life. Take your family along with you. You know, don't, don't say because I'm getting married now or because I'm.
Whatever your season of life is, don't stop the adventures. And I'm passionate about missions and helping churches get involved in missions and doing hiking and backpacking and Big Bend National Park.
And so we didn't know how to do that.
But the good thing is it's good that you're naive and pretty dumb. It's a very important factor to have in life.
This is before AI, so we couldn't ask AI.
Is it smart? Is it. Who has been taking four months old?
[00:12:10] Speaker A: It's a good idea.
[00:12:11] Speaker B: How far into the desert can you take a four month old?
And it's okay. And how do we do this in like 40 degree weather?
[00:12:19] Speaker A: Oh my gosh.
[00:12:21] Speaker B: But anyway, those having taken them like we took him to Juarez. We took him to into the desert in Big Bend with. And Adoniram was four years, four months old. He was a little bitty baby. Yeah.
[00:12:31] Speaker A: And.
[00:12:32] Speaker B: And that just forced us to use everything we knew.
It forced me to use everything I knew about bushcraft and camping.
It forced me to modify what I'm going to do. It focuses everything about you anyway.
When you're doing what you're supposed to be doing in God's kingdom, it brings out every gift and strength you possibly can have. And you're implementing it as opposed to it just floundering or being used on yourself, you know?
[00:13:00] Speaker A: Yeah. So you're. What you're saying is like it brings better character.
[00:13:03] Speaker B: Oh, absolutely.
[00:13:04] Speaker A: Out of you faster to do these things with your family rather than to try and do them alone.
[00:13:09] Speaker B: Try to do Maloney gives different purpose to it.
[00:13:12] Speaker A: I thought getting married, you're really saying though I'm sorry to interrupt you. What you're really talking about here is bringing your family with you on the mission. That's really the fundamental thing we're saying here.
It's not.
Daddy has his mission over here at work and mommy has her mission over here and the kids have their little missions at school. And then we're not all individuals. Instead there's one mission, there's one trajectory. And underneath that, the family has a mission.
And what we're really saying is, hey, let's do this together. Let's train for the mission together. And we're just talking about utilizing the outdoors at a catalyst. That's awesome.
[00:13:50] Speaker B: Yeah. And. And what happens is you start to see the way the family works together, the need for the different gender roles in the family, the fact that kids have a place. So when you go to like say into Juarez, so Juarez was a good example. You go in there, we don't know these kids at all. We're not here to make relationships with these kids. I'm there just to help my church reconnect with the missions organization we support.
But we're interacting with these kids in this home.
And the way that that gets, that that relationship gets started was because we had a little kid, we had Adoniram with us.
[00:14:23] Speaker A: Your boy.
[00:14:24] Speaker B: Yeah. And they would, they would go Interact with him and carry him around. And then women could easily talk to Ashley. No big deal. And you know, I just, I didn't do anything.
[00:14:31] Speaker A: You just stood there. But when you're like, I paid for this.
[00:14:33] Speaker B: When you start to see the, the how much, your effectiveness below just explodes whenever you have a wife and a child and the husband all in one spot.
It's incredible where if I'm just there, I look like a border patrol agent no matter where I go in life.
And so all my access to people is gone.
But with Ashley and my kids with me, I'm a normal human being.
And she's also able to go and interact so much easier because the kid's there, you know?
[00:15:04] Speaker A: Yeah, well, how would you say that? So doing things like this, like taking your family's on these kind of trips with you, whether it's to, you know, Juarez or Chico or whatever it might be, how would you say that you've seen the benefit of that in your family? Like how has it helped, helped you guys?
[00:15:22] Speaker B: Well, we're a super young family. I have a four year old, four and a half year old, a two year old, and Lord willing, a zero year old in a month on the way.
[00:15:33] Speaker A: Let's go.
[00:15:33] Speaker B: He's coming.
William Tyndale Dupuy, actually.
[00:15:38] Speaker A: Are you serious?
[00:15:39] Speaker B: Yeah, we don't play around in our family.
[00:15:40] Speaker A: Oh man.
That is a man name right there.
[00:15:45] Speaker B: We're gonna call him Liam just to give people a break.
It's William Tyndale.
[00:15:50] Speaker A: What about Tinny?
[00:15:52] Speaker B: Maybe so if you pay enough money, we'll do Tenny.
But anyway, Ashley has, has, like, has stretched. She's, she's been stretched a whole lot in, in comfort.
What essentially she does is she tells me what, what's the minimum requirement for her to be comfortable. And then I, I try to make sure that gets, at least that gets produced so she can enjoy herself.
But she's, she's now got to do things in life she never would have done.
[00:16:17] Speaker A: I would like to sleep on something that's not the ground.
[00:16:20] Speaker B: Oh, well, you don't want to go camping?
No. So then. Have you seen our camping trailer?
[00:16:26] Speaker A: I have seen it. It is impressive.
[00:16:28] Speaker B: That's right. It's very. I built it.
[00:16:29] Speaker A: Looks like, it looks like a transformer, you know, like there's all kinds of things that slide out of it and shelves that come out.
[00:16:37] Speaker B: It shocks me every time I see it.
But anyway, anyway that she's, she's gotten to do things she's never would have done because her, you know, the husband, wife dynamic. We go do these things.
And then my little boy is. He's all about this stuff. Now.
The past couple days, they've been rekindling this fire, which I'm trying to tell them is like a marriage.
It's like a relationship, son. He's like.
He does what all kids do. When I say things like that, they're like, we're gonna burn. We're gonna burn the. We're gonna burn, Mommy.
No, son, it's like, it's. Never mind.
[00:17:11] Speaker A: You're not getting the metaphor. Listen to the metaphor.
[00:17:14] Speaker B: You're not gonna be a good romantic.
But anyway, they're all about the.
Just rekindling this fire in our backyard over and over with some sticks. Or we have a tent in our house for his. Over his bed. And he just sleeps. It's my backpacking tent. It's good enough for like a twin size mattress. And that's where we put his bed and he lives in. So now when we go camping, it's no difference for him.
[00:17:37] Speaker A: He feels fine with it.
[00:17:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Now Charlie. Charlie sleeps in like this little miniature tent cocoon thing up in the tent. It's like a tent. Yeah.
[00:17:44] Speaker A: Charlie's middle name, Owen.
[00:17:47] Speaker B: Like John Owen.
[00:17:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:48] Speaker B: But also my mom's side was Owens.
[00:17:50] Speaker A: I was waiting for Wesley. I was waiting for Wesley to be the middle name.
[00:17:55] Speaker B: We let. We let him choose.
[00:18:00] Speaker A: He gets to choose his identity. I'm sorry. Okay, okay, okay.
[00:18:04] Speaker B: But anyway, it's been wild. And so we drug a canoe from our church to our house just now. And my little boy was ecstatic seeing this canoe show up. And all we're doing is we're gonna go to Lake Martin tomorrow and meet up with another family from. From First Baptist Appaloosas and canoe around.
My little boy is on cloud nine. He knows what camouflage shirt he wants to wear.
[00:18:25] Speaker A: He's ready to go.
[00:18:26] Speaker B: Yeah, he's. He's four and a half and the other kid is two.
They're gonna be like, losing their minds just being on this adventure. And we are gonna be around real alligators. But come on now. It's hard to get an alligator to bite you. Like, it's.
It's hard. I rarely ever get to see snakes, and I've done some crazy stuff. And then alligators, they just go away from you. So God hasn't blessed us yet with like a.
And I'm just trying to speak toward people's fear of, like, alligators. It's very hard to get bit by an alligator.
[00:18:53] Speaker A: You gotta go crabbing and then not let go of the string. That's how you get in trouble with alligators. You put tie chicken on the end of the string.
[00:19:00] Speaker B: Okay. Chicken. Okay.
[00:19:01] Speaker A: Catch crabs. And then when a gator grabs it.
[00:19:04] Speaker B: You don't, like, don't let go.
[00:19:05] Speaker A: That's, that's how you get in trouble. If you say it's not advice.
[00:19:08] Speaker B: I can text, I can write it down.
[00:19:10] Speaker A: This is not. This is, this is what not to do. That's what not to do.
[00:19:14] Speaker B: Like just like the Titanic movie. Don't let go. And you'll get it. You'll get a, an alligator.
[00:19:19] Speaker A: You'll. Yeah, you'll. Well, they'll get you, but yeah, praise God, once you're in the water with them, it's over.
[00:19:25] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:19:26] Speaker A: You want to stay out of the water, man. That's, that's where you win. Water, lose, land, win.
So as you're, as you're kind of thinking through this and developing it, one of the things that we talked about is.
So this, this episode is more of just like, hey, this is what we're thinking. This is where we're trying to go. This is what we want to. This is one of what we want to hopefully help people build. But in future episodes, we're actually going to talk about Treks.
[00:19:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Like specific ones. Specific things you've gone on or.
[00:19:54] Speaker A: Yeah, like things that, Things that people can do.
[00:19:57] Speaker B: Oh, absolutely.
[00:19:58] Speaker A: With their own people. Like, the goal is not just to sit here and like cast a vision. That's episode one. Like, what we really want to do is say, hey, have you been to Chico? You should go to this trail. Here's the stuff you'd probably need to.
[00:20:12] Speaker B: Be with a kid. Yeah, I just, I just went there with, with A.D. and I was at work. I have a different job, people. You cannot replicate my exact life. I'm just saying.
And we just went up the road to Chico, to the arboretum. We went on the shortest little bitty trail. It didn't take long. It wasn't like a mile. It was even shorter than that. And we just, we just like, we took our time checking out the, what the pigs were doing because there was a sign on the window that said, be careful of the pigs. And so a four year old now is seeing a sign that there's a beast out there. And I'm like, adoniram, they're telling us to be careful for these things.
He's like, is it the bad guy Bigs? You know, because we could shoot him kind of thing. It's like, I don't know. So anyway, we should walk down the thing. And then we. I was showing him where they're all dug up. All the dirt from. From just root rooting and whatnot. And we. We followed it. We had that tracks around the water. We were just around the. That was it. That's all we did. Yeah. We talked about where. Where you would sleep if you had to sleep out here. And he picked a spot which was wrong. The wrong spot.
[00:21:07] Speaker A: Come on. Four year old.
[00:21:08] Speaker B: And then I. I picked the correct spot.
No, but we. We just. We just did that. We messed around it. We climbed a tree that was there and then we. We had some. We found some hiking sticks that we had to throw back to the. To nature because you can't harvest stuff in the arboretum.
Liberals.
You gotta. You gotta leave it as an actual arboretum.
So anyway, that was it. It cost. It cost whatever the entrance fee was and the gas money.
[00:21:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:35] Speaker B: And that. It was. You didn't need any gear. You just walked around and had a.
[00:21:38] Speaker A: Good time with your kids.
[00:21:39] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:21:39] Speaker A: He learned stuff.
[00:21:40] Speaker B: No big deal. It blew his mind. Oh, his camouflage matched the terrain.
[00:21:44] Speaker A: Oh, he was so hype about.
[00:21:46] Speaker B: That was awesome, man. It was. It was awesome for me as a camouflage whatever. You want to call me savant. I'm not sure what the word is for what I am.
This kid was all blint. He was all blended in.
Look at this.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: That's. That's legitimately impressive.
[00:22:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Scared by the way. Parents don't do what we did. We bought our kids a bunch of camouflage eyeballs.
[00:22:07] Speaker A: Now you can't see them.
[00:22:08] Speaker B: Now you cannot see the kid.
[00:22:11] Speaker A: Buy them orange shirts. Yeah, orange, yellow.
[00:22:14] Speaker B: Tell them orange is cool. That's right.
[00:22:17] Speaker A: Everybody loves orange the most.
[00:22:19] Speaker B: So he. That costs nothing, you know.
[00:22:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:21] Speaker B: And it was. It was. I had some time to kill between inspections. Again, my lifestyle is a little different with his cons and pros. But anyway, that blew his mind. But it's still replicable.
[00:22:32] Speaker A: Like there's mechanisms through which people can. Can bring this particular type of experience into their lives. Because for the. So I grew up in the middle.
[00:22:40] Speaker B: Of nowhere in the woods in Central or North Louisiana.
[00:22:44] Speaker A: North Louisiana. Like one time I dropped a pen and sent it to my brother in law and he said, where are you?
[00:22:50] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:22:51] Speaker A: Because it's the middle of nowhere in the middle of the woods. That was my life. And so if I got bored, there were trees.
That's just what we did.
But now I remember the defining moment where I knew the house that I wanted to buy and Why I wanted to buy it was because it felt like what I grew up in. And honestly, I didn't even know I wanted that until I saw it.
[00:23:12] Speaker B: Is that the one you're in now?
[00:23:13] Speaker A: Yeah, that's the house you're in.
[00:23:14] Speaker B: That is a super awesome place.
[00:23:16] Speaker A: It's woodsy. I can just, like, I can send my son into the woods and be like, see you later, buddy.
[00:23:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:21] Speaker A: You know, and they go off and they do their thing and the. The kids have tents set up out there and they go live their life.
[00:23:26] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness.
[00:23:27] Speaker A: And it's good for them. Like, but that is a decision as a parent that you kind of have to intentionally make. Like, sometimes I send my kids into the woods with machetes and hatchets, and I'm like, all right, see y' all later.
And I mean, you know, like my eight year old.
[00:23:43] Speaker B: Yeah, but there's way. You didn't. That's not their first time.
[00:23:46] Speaker A: No, it's not. Like, I've never. They've never touched this before.
[00:23:49] Speaker B: Mitigate them.
[00:23:50] Speaker A: We've trained them. They know how to handle it. But that doesn't mean that I'm not nervous about it. When I send them off. Like, I'm like, maybe they're gonna come back with nine fingers. Like, I don't. We're gonna see what happens. I try to explain to him how it's supposed to work, but that's. That goes back to what I was saying before. Kids today live in a complete absence of risk, and that's not good for them. Yeah, they. They need to go into areas of life that they don't fully understand, and maybe even that mom and dad don't necessarily fully understand, because part of that is the character of God. Like, you're not going to fully know and understand God. And this is. This is who we face.
Go into these areas where you don't necessarily fully understand what's going to happen and you get to just live.
[00:24:37] Speaker B: Yeah. And there. And. And there's like apartment complex versions of this, you know, like a dirt pile. Or let your kid just dig right there and whatever grass you have while you're looking for some mobile home that has a wooded area somewhere, you know, while you're projecting your vision out for your family.
[00:24:53] Speaker A: Yes, yes.
[00:24:54] Speaker B: And just let that kid stay out there for a long time with his shovel and let him get. The boredom is so important. It's. It's important for me. Let that kid get bored and then push past the boredom. Yes, but I mean, there's a. There's a lot I want to share about. About Duke Dupy Guides as far as what we're doing and why. Why we're doing it, or who are we. So this is who we are. Originally it was just. It's just me, and now it's me and my family who. Who do this. And we originally had to. Your name's all Dup because I'm Dup. I'm Jonathan Dup. And I actually, I got the Dupy Guides name from.
From Ray Mears bushcraft off of YouTube. Go watch that guy.
Pretty incredible. Anyway, it's old school stuff. Anyway, that's where I got the. The drive for the name and all that. But anyway, it was. It was the passion to bring people out into God's creation. And that way it can just do its job to their souls. Like just the. Just to get out there.
You need at least two nights out there for it to really do its job. But one. One night is fine, you know?
[00:25:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:55] Speaker B: Or a hike is fine.
And so we started doing that with friends and family. And then there was that. That seeing when we need older men to reshape younger men because we have no. We have no idea what gender means. Even in the conservative side of society.
The liberals are doing their crazy stuff with it, but the conservatives don't even know what the correct version is anymore.
[00:26:15] Speaker A: What is it to be masculine?
[00:26:16] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:26:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:18] Speaker B: They know to go to go to work, and then that's about it. That's all they know.
They don't know what's good, what's bad. It's all needs to be rewritten. Yeah.
[00:26:25] Speaker A: They think it's locker room talk or.
[00:26:26] Speaker B: Yeah. And then, and then older men probably feel totally passed up in the church. Like if you can't wear skinny jeans and you can't like do a cartwheel on the stage, then you're not, you know, you're not used by God. You're not usable.
And so what Manhood Overland was, was to. Was to show that we need you. We need your old Vietnam vet PTSD or what's who's alive now. Not the Vietnam vets. But anyway, just come out here and just interact with these young men and let him interact with you. And, and, and we talked. We talked about everything we talked about. About marriage, sex, finances, ivf, everything. We, we. The idea was to. Was to. This is a raw place where we were actually going to say the things that need to be said to stop the.
The pain and hurt from progressing. We're gonna actually deal with it.
So we did that for a while and then we would start these. So New Hope Rangers was another example. We, with John Newman's ministry, to do the same thing with kids who. You would think if, like, if you grew up in the hood, you're like, well, maybe those kids don't really get out. But actually in South Louisiana, they have uncles, and some of them grow up going. Going crabbing and stuff as well, but some don't. Some. Yeah, they're just. They're in survival mode all the time.
[00:27:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:36] Speaker B: And then with the open door church, it was the same thing. It was. It was bringing these, these families and stuff to the outdoors and teach them these, these skill sets.
[00:27:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:43] Speaker B: And teaching them leadership skills. Which is now. Now that these people are adults, it's pretty wild how capable they are of taking on leadership roles.
And then this is why I think many just go get married. You don't need to have the theology perfect. Just. Just go do the.
[00:27:59] Speaker A: Just do it.
[00:28:00] Speaker B: Do the steps God has for you biologically.
And it actually corrects. It puts your brain and your. And your actions where they belong. It puts the right stress in your life.
[00:28:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:09] Speaker B: So getting married, what I saw was the women don't know what women are either. And I can't go do a women's event. You know, I came out of Latin dancing back in the day. I can't necessarily go back to heels and tights, but I did find that what was missing is families don't need to. They just need help doing adventures as families. And that's an opportunity to be really crisp and simple with going through the household.
[00:28:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:35] Speaker B: Teachings in Paul, for Paul with these families. So that's the most recent pivot. And we got to do this camp out. We did some training with it with the father son training, but this most more recent one, we did a camp out with a family, and the family just got to hang out with each other and we got to help them through the month before, just help get their gear straight. And then they were like camping at their own house before.
[00:28:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:58] Speaker B: Here's the cooking gear you're going to need. Totally holding their hand through the hallway and then setting up the go to Indian Creek and then in the morning. And their parenting is right there in front of you.
[00:29:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:10] Speaker B: Our parenting is totally, totally bare in front of them. So they could see our faults and, you know, I'm assuming some of the good things we're doing and then you can talk about that while you're out there. And then in the morning, we went through the Husbands, wives, children, and parenting in Ephesians. You just read through it and Ashley could comment on what it's like to submit or at least try to figure that out.
I could comment on things that we could ask questions. You could try to encourage them to say, like, what I'm trying to get people to say is what are they freaking out about when they hear these, these things in the scriptures.
This is parenting. This is submission. The kids, you have a calling to submit to your, to your parents.
You could deal with that in this environment where the dad gets to like lead his family and, and the husband and wife get to interact and it's ugly or it's, it's just, it's, it's. It's real, I guess is the word it all gets. It's almost like having a minister come live with you and then walk through different things instead of coming to a church and the pastor preaches and then you got to go home and apply it to yourself. Well, imagine if you're like, hey, Pastor Kirk or Pastor Stuart, could you come to my house for the weekend?
[00:30:16] Speaker A: Just watch.
[00:30:17] Speaker B: So anyway, we got just, just keep.
[00:30:19] Speaker A: An eye on us. And then at the end of it, you can tell us how you think things are going.
[00:30:23] Speaker B: So that's the new vision, is to try to work with, work with families to help them be families. And we tried doing, we did little guides, which was super successful. This is like preschoolers age and we did like a kind of a pseudo Navy SEAL confidence course, the O course for four year olds, you know what I'm saying?
And they were in the mud, they were balancing, they were swinging on things. You could see these, some of these kids had no motor skills because, because of what you're saying that they just. Xbox.
[00:30:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:52] Speaker B: Or some of them did and they liked it. Or the girls could do thing, could swing because she was, she liked gymnastics.
But then the purpose of that was for the parent to be doing all the things with, like help the kid balance or. And then you could help the parent discipline the kid by like, you, you're not supposed to be counting right now. You're supposed to say, you know, do this yes ma'. Am. And then they, they say yes, ma' am or whatnot and they obey. You can actually walk with the parent through it.
So that was little guides.
[00:31:18] Speaker A: Well, it's also interesting.
So like, if you, if you place people into an environment that is going to cause them a degree of discomfort, it brings problems to the surface faster, right?
[00:31:31] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely.
[00:31:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:32] Speaker B: Like, if the discomfort does. I'm tired. I'm hungry.
[00:31:35] Speaker A: My phone doesn't work. I've been walking for six miles. I haven't eaten in a while, and I'm irritable now. It's gonna. It's gonna bring, like. So speaking specifically to families, it's gonna bring the issues that you might not even know are there.
[00:31:49] Speaker B: Yeah, it'll bring it out.
[00:31:50] Speaker A: Yeah. And it'll help on the other side of something like that. It'll help you be tougher.
[00:31:53] Speaker B: And instantly cooking dinner does the same thing. Apparently, we're talking, like, unloading the tent from the vehicle.
[00:32:06] Speaker A: That'll bring some sanctification in, but you're.
[00:32:08] Speaker B: Doing it around someone who we're supposed to be. Ashley and I are supposed to be purposeful to want to interact with the couple.
[00:32:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:16] Speaker B: When these are going on, we're not. We're not good at that part yet.
[00:32:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:18] Speaker B: But hopefully in the future, we are good at it. To say, you know, as we get older, we'll be like. We'll be able to have a conversation later of like, yeah, isn't that frustrating when he does this, this and this? And. And anyway, I'm trying to give examples of it.
It's just to help families go on to adventures and take out all the. All the. The scary parts for the family, take care of all of that and just bring them on these adventures so that they can then just do it on their own and take their families and go do stuff, you know, with their families.
[00:32:46] Speaker A: Heck, yeah. And. And part of the goal of this show is to just say, and here's stuff you could do.
[00:32:51] Speaker B: That's right. You could.
[00:32:52] Speaker A: You could.
Here's. Here's how. Here's some tips on going to Lake Martin.
[00:32:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:57] Speaker A: And one of our plans is to pair this with, like, content that you create inside of the duplicate guide space.
[00:33:02] Speaker B: Good point. Yeah.
[00:33:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, so. So in other words, like, we might have an episode on, you know, Lake Martin because we just talked about it. Well, then we could point people to Dupuy guides, whether on Facebook or YouTube or wherever, and they could go see how to do it and ask.
[00:33:18] Speaker B: And ask questions.
[00:33:19] Speaker A: Yeah. And interact directly and say, okay, now, how do I. How do I not get eaten by that alligator again? What do I. Should I not roll over in my kayak right now?
[00:33:28] Speaker B: Or is this fun? I want to bring my kids to go do this. Is this. Is this easy to do? Is this. Am I thinking too big or too small or. And if you go to duplicate guides on Facebook right now, folks, as you're listening Right now, today on January 7th, I posted what is Dupuy Guides. And you can look at some of the pictures from our history and then you can scroll through our recent trip to Chico State Park.
I then took my four, a two year old on his birthday to the zoo while. While we're waiting for something. And then you have an example of us just goofing off in our backyard.
Man, these kids were like going nuts over s'. Mores. Yeah.
[00:34:02] Speaker A: Oh, let's go.
[00:34:03] Speaker B: Dude, they were ridiculously good.
We just made dinner on our fire. This is not common for us. This part maybe like once a year. This part where they're eating s'. Mores. This is becoming more and more common. They. They just want. They want to make a fire, and then once the fire, they want to hear a story. So they sit down right here and they ask me for a story. And we tell the same story of Meach, Shadrach and Abedigo. Like these three guys. Three guys. Three guys. And then they're in the fire. And like, how many were in the fire? Like four guys.
[00:34:30] Speaker A: Who.
[00:34:30] Speaker B: Who was that dude?
Jesus. Yeah, you know, that, that kind of thing.
They want that story over and over again.
[00:34:37] Speaker A: That's awesome. So that's awesome.
[00:34:39] Speaker B: So anyway, that this is Dupuy gods again is just, just. I'm trying to put examples out there on our Facebook of what? Normal. Just get outside.
[00:34:48] Speaker A: Yeah, okay.
[00:34:50] Speaker B: Have fun with your people. And then I'll put stuff about, you know, survival fatalities. I'll also put that on there.
[00:34:57] Speaker A: Which, you know, maybe one day. No, hopefully we're not. Hopefully we're not featured on that.
[00:35:02] Speaker B: Yeah. And in the future, I can tell stories about the worst that has ever happened, which is not that. Which is not that severe. Can we can cover, you know, how do you handle pooping in the woods? How do you handle, you know, what about.
[00:35:15] Speaker A: It comes up.
[00:35:16] Speaker B: Yeah. What about taking naps with a kid? What about, like, how do you.
[00:35:19] Speaker A: How do you.
[00:35:19] Speaker B: How do you do these hurdles with your family while you go do these things, you know?
[00:35:23] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:35:24] Speaker B: And folks can ask questions on these posts and then we can answer them.
Possibly answer them during the podcast.
[00:35:31] Speaker A: Yeah, heck, yeah. Absolutely. That'd be a lot of fun. Well, guys, there it is. That's the vision. That's what we're trying to do here. We're trying to help people get a little bit more exposed to God's creation for the purpose of him transforming us more into the image of Christ.
Thank you so much, Jonathan. Coming and hanging out to help Launch this bad boy. We're going to hopefully do one of these every month or so and give you new ideas to take your families on adventures in the Lord's creation. If you have. If you guys have not done so yet, you should go and find dupuisguys on Facebook.
D U P U I S Guides.
You can go find them on Facebook. Send Jonathan your questions. He loves this kind of stuff, man. Oh, absolutely. He'd be happy to, like, give you field any ideas or thoughts that you might have. If you're looking for a group or if you're looking to put a group together to go do something, he'd be happy to help facilitate that as well. Yeah, absolutely. We hope to.
I would say we hope to inspire, motivate, and equip you to go and do stuff like this with your family, make our families strong, and then continue to build the Kingdom of Christ here in Acadiana.
[00:36:42] Speaker B: Yeah. And just last piece. Just know it's not for. For profit. You know, I don't. You don't pay me to do these things.
[00:36:48] Speaker A: I won't be charging people like we are. I think it's like negative $100 so far. Right.
Well, guys, thank you all so much for listening. Find Dupwee Guides on Facebook.
Come and be a part of learning how to take your family, your children on these kinds of adventures to be grown and sanctified in the Lord. And we hope to bring you lots more content like this in the future. Thank you so much for listening and we'll see you next time.
