Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] Speaker A: Hello, my friends.
Welcome to another episode of the Parish Circuit. I said, hello, my friends, because I was trying not to say, what's up, guys? Because I always say, what's up, guys? I'm trying to change it up, you know, trying to be creative with the introductions.
[00:00:14] Speaker B: That's thoughtful.
[00:00:15] Speaker A: Someone has said to me recently, they're like, you should have music. And I just don't think we're there yet. I just don't think we're. We're not cool enough yet to have, like, intro and outro music.
So we just haven't done that.
It's not that we're not creative. It's that we're leveraging our resources appropriately.
[00:00:35] Speaker B: Yes. With that in mind, if you'd like to donate or.
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Yeah. We'd appreciate your support.
[00:01:28] Speaker A: Amen. Well, today there's been some interesting developments happening in the country nationwide. Massachusetts, State of Massachusetts. Now, some people just said. I thought this was local news. Hold on. We're gonna get there.
[00:01:38] Speaker B: We'll get there.
[00:01:39] Speaker A: State of Massachusetts recently signed into a law, a lift on abortion restrictions up to birth.
[00:01:47] Speaker B: Right. Governor Mora Healey signed that. And there's that picture that's going around everywhere.
[00:01:53] Speaker A: I have family that live in Massachusetts. Like, I was texting with them about this. Like, it's crazy. I put on X. Yes, I'm on X. I put on X. After I saw this, I was like, just leave. Just get out of Massachusetts. Like, why? That means that anybody who has a kid there or is planning to have children there, their children are more in danger. Just generally speaking. That's crazy. Like, get out. Get the heck out of there, man. Just get the heck out of there. So Massachusetts passes this ridiculous law where now up to birth you are. And the way that they've worded it is like it's at the discretion of the physician. That's the way that they're wording it.
[00:02:30] Speaker B: That's one of the scariest sentences.
[00:02:32] Speaker A: Yeah. So depending on the physician that you get, they could just decide to kill you.
So at the discretion of the physician. Up to birth. Abortion is now allowed in the state of Massachusetts.
And there's plenty of counter arguments that are existing in there. Let's just destroy one of them real fast. So the argument, one of the counter arguments is like, well, the abortions are already happening. We're just trying to make them safer. I hear that argument all the time.
It's not gonna. This law, therefore is not going to increase the amount of abortions that are happening up to birth. It's just gonna make them safer. That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Not ever. I'm exaggerating again. It's up there, though, but it is pretty daggum high. And also, so then therefore, let's make rape legal.
Let's legalize rape. So our argument, it's already happening anyway, so might as well make it safer.
[00:03:19] Speaker B: Murder should not be made safer for the murderer.
[00:03:23] Speaker A: No.
Yeah, that, that's, this is not crazy.
[00:03:26] Speaker B: That's something that should be, you know, be being put into law to protect the murderer.
[00:03:31] Speaker A: Yeah, Absolutely not. Absolutely not.
[00:03:33] Speaker B: So, yeah. And if you apply that logic anywhere else, it doesn't make any sense and it would rub us the wrong way.
[00:03:39] Speaker A: Correct. And.
[00:03:40] Speaker B: And it's obviously murder because it's a small human being.
[00:03:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:03:43] Speaker B: That's being. That's innocent and is being killed intentionally.
[00:03:47] Speaker A: So how do we defeat this Goliath? And how do we keep it from encroaching on us here in our area?
I'm glad that you asked. Yeah.
[00:03:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, I know I want to hear your kind of take locally, but can I throw a couple other things in there, please, nationally, that are interesting? Massachusetts isn't the only state. I was curious, so I made sure I looked up. There's like five others more than that. So Colorado, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Vermont, Washington, D.C. and this was the surprising one. Alaska all have legalized abortion up to birth.
Isn't that depressing?
[00:04:23] Speaker A: That is incredibly depressing. Yeah, I guess I'm encouraged. So that's 10. Is that 10 states total?
[00:04:29] Speaker B: 10 and nine states, one district of Columbia.
[00:04:32] Speaker A: Okay, got it. Oh, I see nine, 10 jurisdictions. Let's say that. So this is Interesting.
I'm encouraged that it's only 20% of the country that is willing to do something like this. And I'm encouraged to know that there are, I would say probably just as many, if not more states that have completely made abortion illegal inside of those states.
I love that. And we're in one of them, baby.
[00:04:55] Speaker B: You see a trajectory.
[00:04:56] Speaker A: Yeah. There's a positive trajectory here. And I know, personally, I know people who would have been aborted as a child had somebody not interceded. And you know what? They're glad they're alive.
Right. They're super thankful that someone didn't kill them.
[00:05:16] Speaker B: Yep. So that, I mean, where you're kind of getting to that common.
Again the common wicked argument that,
[00:05:26] Speaker A: well,
[00:05:26] Speaker B: what if that child is going to grow up in a. Basically a broken home or in poverty or in danger or in whatever you're. So that basically that argument hinges on.
It's an argument to say if you're poor, we could kill you.
[00:05:42] Speaker A: Let's kill poor people.
[00:05:43] Speaker B: We are in our godlike foreknowledge, predicting that your life is going to be terrible, therefore we can justify killing the innocent.
It's absolutely absurd and wicked.
[00:05:57] Speaker A: Absolutely. Yes. And it is.
I have so many different counter arguments for that kind of statement. It's like hard for me to rifle them in my brain.
But you don't know. First off, you're not God. You're not God. You're not omniscient. In fact, all the statistics say that the kids that you have, families who have children and have more children and parents who stay married while having children always make more money over time.
Come on, guys.
[00:06:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:28] Speaker A: The stats play it out like this is, this is such a just painfully obvious thing.
[00:06:36] Speaker B: And the vast. Like you brought up the vast majority of. Even the poor and people that are living in hard situations, they aren't wishing that their parents had killed them.
[00:06:47] Speaker A: In fact, they're grateful to be alive.
[00:06:49] Speaker B: They're generally grateful to be alive.
Yeah. And things like that. Yeah. I mean there's lots of topics we get into here, but it's.
[00:06:57] Speaker A: Yeah. So it's happening all over the country. Thankfully we are in one of the states that has put our foot down and said, no, we're not doing that here. But that wasn't always the case in Louisiana.
[00:07:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:08] Speaker A: And it wasn't always the case in Appaloosas either.
And we still have the morning after pill thing that's going on in the world, the prescription abortion things that are going on. There are some pro life people that actually advocate now that abortions are happening more often than they used to.
[00:07:26] Speaker B: Yeah, that could be a good question to tackle too.
[00:07:28] Speaker A: But I would argue against that by birth rates. So if you go to states that have actually outlawed abortion inside of those states, if you pay attention, since that's happened, birth rates have actually ticked up.
So something's happening. Right. I would not make the argument that more abortions are now happening. I would say it's definitely been regulated and restricted.
[00:07:49] Speaker B: And our arguments are ultimately not utilitarian.
[00:07:53] Speaker A: Thank you. We're not materialists. Yes, thank you.
Thank you.
[00:07:57] Speaker B: We are not also trying to argue that like the reason you shouldn't kill babies in the womb is ultimately because that baby might be the one that cures cancer or that baby might become a professional athlete.
[00:08:08] Speaker A: You shouldn't kill them because God says,
[00:08:10] Speaker B: right, do not murder God. And he said, thou shall not murder. Yes, that's the ultimate amen. But you are getting to an interesting point too. And one thing that was a good shift in my thinking as well. People, I think, struggled for a long time with the idea of when there's been maybe a Democratic, more pro abortion president, there's fewer abortions, apparently. And then when there's like a Republican more pro life president, like the abortions go up.
[00:08:38] Speaker A: Lol.
[00:08:39] Speaker B: And so then suddenly that's used as kind of ammo against the. The pro life movement or the movement against abortion. And to me it's like silly.
People who kill their babies are the ones responsible.
If it is true, and I doubt some of those statistics, but if it is true that people are scrambling to kill their children in greater numbers, that's awful.
[00:09:05] Speaker A: Maybe just one group is actually reporting accurately.
[00:09:08] Speaker B: That's possible. But they should also stop doing that. They should repent and stop killing people, period.
[00:09:14] Speaker A: Full stop.
[00:09:15] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the problem.
That's the problem.
[00:09:17] Speaker A: Don't murder. Don't murder.
Now, we would like to frame this in a local sense and we've hinted at it a little bit already. It was not always the case in Opelousis. Opelousis was at one point an operational center and part of a referral network for abortions. Now this thankfully was over a very short period of time within the last 10 years or so that this was happening.
But it was happening for a season.
It did exist. And as a result of that, there's blood on people's hands here in the community, here in the city of Opelousas. So there was a doctor that moved into town and she was a known abortion provider. In fact, there were some statistics that people would present and say, we believe based on these statistics and based on these court testimonies, that this is actually like the abortion provider for the state of Louisiana. Like the largest numbers in quite some time.
[00:10:17] Speaker B: Like, she had performed a lot of abortions.
[00:10:19] Speaker A: A lot of them, yes, a whole lot of them.
And there were people who were trying to get her to testify in court to that, and they couldn't quite get it to happen.
So it's. You know, I'm not an expert in law. I don't understand exactly how all those things work, but somehow it didn't have to be dealt with. So, anyway, so when we caught wind that she was moving in and opening a clinic, which was actually like 100 yards from my house, where I lived at the time, there was a new clinic moving in. One of the things that we did is we got loud about it, hey, this can't happen here.
Heads up, planet Earth. And, you know, we just made a little video. I think it was me talking on the cell phone, walking around my yard. You know, it was nothing crazy.
And we shipped it on the Internet and it took off. Of course it did. Of course it did. That was what we intended to happen.
And that resulted in city council hearings, people debating on whether or not she should be licensed, people saying, don't worry, she's not licensed here. When the network, the way that it was actually working is she would set up satellite referral clinics, and she was only licensed to perform abortions in one particular city. And I don't remember if it was Baton Rouge in New Orleans, but she had a clinic. And the way that abortion licenses worked in the state of Louisiana is they were based geographically. And so she would see patients at her satellite clinics and then would refer them to either Baton Rouge or New Orleans. I can't remember which one. It was for the actual procedure, for the actual abortion.
And so it was a referral pool. The counterargument to us making a lot of noise about it at the time was she's not going to perform abortions here. She can't perform abortions here. She's not licensed to perform abortions here. To which we were saying, we know that it's a referral system, it's a network.
It's a pointing of a mech. Like it's bureaucracy at work.
[00:12:08] Speaker B: Right.
Like you were trying to say, hey, we're not gonna let the Nazis load up the Jews on this train platform that's going to bring them to Auschwitz.
[00:12:21] Speaker A: Yeah, guys, we're not going to kill them. We're just putting them on a train.
[00:12:23] Speaker B: We're just putting them on a train.
[00:12:25] Speaker A: Right? That's right. Excellent analogy. Thank you. Yes. So this is not something that is foreign to us.
We have fought this fight. Now, thankfully, we live in a state, no matter.
Like, the city of Opelousis was fine with her opening up her doors and was fine with her operating that clinic and was also content to play ignorant to the stats. Like, we went and talked to city council.
We brought documentation, gave them all stuff. We said, you need to read this, make sure that you understand what's going on here. This is not a joke. This is serious.
City council, by and large, took it seriously, from what I could tell, but nothing changed. They still let it happen. They still let her move in. And there was even some legal questions of, like, what could we do to stop it.
Thank you for asking. I'm glad that you asked.
There are things that can be done. Like the idea of how do we stop this from happening? We just don't know.
That's crazy.
We can easily pass ordinances. We can easily demonstrate. We can easily say, hey, get out of here. You're not allowed to be here. We can easily pressure zoning.
We do things like that all the time. Why wouldn't we do it in a situation like this? And so kind of what we're advocating for in this time is for people to be vigilant in their hometowns. Do you know what I'm saying?
Not to sleep on this issue.
And you can intercede with your local government and say, hey, we don't want this here. We want to live a righteous life, not with this.
And we want to submit to the Lord and what he calls us to do.
[00:14:08] Speaker B: And I think there's. We've talked about being kind of guilty covenantally in a biblical sense of a great evil. And I think that's something that in that sense, our nation as a whole, of which we are a part, is guilty of this, you know, abhorrent practice of abortion.
But I would, as an encouragement, maybe say we have greater say and influence and responsibility for what is in our back door, you know, and what we can affect.
[00:14:36] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:14:37] Speaker B: So while the issue is big, I think as a nation, we can hope that we're headed in the right direction.
And the steps we can take now are probably local and, you know, right out. Right out in front of us.
[00:14:49] Speaker A: Absolutely. Just deal with it in your town.
[00:14:51] Speaker B: One interesting thing going back to Governor Maura Healey, if I'm saying that right this Is Massachusetts. Yeah. So there's also been talk of her. There's a bunch of Catholics. She's at least said she's a Catholic, a practicing Catholic. There's a lot of Catholics calling for her to be excommunicated and basically barred from Communion.
[00:15:10] Speaker A: Yeah, they won't do it.
[00:15:11] Speaker B: They probably won't do it.
[00:15:12] Speaker A: They didn't do it with Joe Biden.
[00:15:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:14] Speaker A: Why would they do it with her?
[00:15:15] Speaker B: Well, that I think it would. It'd be an. It's an interesting test case. It'll maybe show if we've gotten that far, if the. If the pendulum has swung far enough, perhaps that people are willing to actually do something about it. But I'm just using that. Using that as an example. If you're wondering, like, well, what can we do? Well, we need to start holding people directly accountable when we have that lever to pull. So for the Catholic Church, yes, absolutely. She's celebrating the murder of more children.
She should absolutely be excommunicated.
But that goes for any church organization or company or whatever.
[00:15:53] Speaker A: Yeah. And what I like about that is that it starts at a local level.
Like, it could really just be the priest overseeing the mass that she comes to saying, no.
[00:16:03] Speaker B: Right.
[00:16:04] Speaker A: No, this is not for you.
It could just start right there. And then she would at the very least have to appeal to the diocese or to the College of Bishops, which I think if I understand current Catholic political situations based on the people that I've talked to that are connected and understand those things a little bit more, There's a reason that all the popes have been more and more left leaning for quite some time. Like, the argument is that the College of Bishops has been, you know, effectively infiltrated and has been pushed more and more to the left over the years.
Or College of Cardinals. I'm sorry, I said bishops both times. All our Catholic listeners are like, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
Forgive me, we're not. I'm not Catholic.
Yeah. But I would, you know, I would say that it starts locally first. Like, push locally first and make things happen on a local level. That's the whole point of this podcast, is to encourage people to act locally. And the issue of abortion is something that we should be vigilant on. We could pass an ordinance for the city of Opelousa. Hey, you can't sell morning after pills here. We could just do.
Could just happen and then just let the chips fall where they may. Oh, sorry, you can't do that. The parish intercedes or the state Intercedes or whatever. But we could operate locally and independently. Our government was actually designed for that.
[00:17:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And there could just be even enough kind of social and cultural pressure that, like, we. We don't kill babies here.
[00:17:34] Speaker A: We just don't do it.
[00:17:35] Speaker B: We don't do it.
[00:17:36] Speaker A: That's right. Amen.
[00:17:37] Speaker B: And that kind of gets back to what we've talked about in recent episodes. When you, you know, reject the 10 commandments, you end up with the 10,000.
[00:17:43] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:17:44] Speaker B: Commandments. But. But if we were able to get back to a small degree, to a point where there was a lot of community enforcement through a moral framework that we all generally agreed to, like the Bible.
[00:17:55] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:17:56] Speaker B: Then things like this could be stopped.
[00:17:58] Speaker A: Blue laws still exist in a lot of states, in a lot of counties. Blue laws, you know, explain that. Yeah. So blue laws are the Sunday laws. Like, businesses aren't open on Sundays or you don't. You can't buy beer on a Sunday or things like that. Like, I come from a town that operated that way.
In fact, they had Wednesday and Sunday closures because folks went to church on Wednesday night, and they went to church on Sunday and they would close them both down. And I've heard tales of communities who have had grocery stores that actually took turns on Sunday because they recognized that, well, maybe we should have something open.
[00:18:35] Speaker B: It could be need.
[00:18:35] Speaker A: Yeah, potentially it could be an emergency, but they would just rotate.
All of these things are lingering facts of a Christian culture.
[00:18:44] Speaker B: I still want to be able to buy beer on Wednesdays.
Don't go that far. Come on.
[00:18:49] Speaker A: I'm just using it as an example for. Just using it as an example of blue laws.
It's not unheard of for faith to work itself out into the law code. Absolutely. So why not?
In fact, the whole legal system. If you listen to previous episodes, the whole legal system that we have, America, is based on English common law, which is based on Old Testament case law, which was worked out initially by King Alfred the Great and then handed down again farther and refined. And there's all kinds of cool stuff that you can learn about King Alfred the Great, who united the Saxons because they were getting pillaged by the Danes. There's an awesome book that you can read on that. Anyway. Yep.
[00:19:31] Speaker B: Well, cool. Well, should we talk a little bit while we have time about how we got here?
[00:19:35] Speaker A: Yes.
So maybe how did abortion even become a thing? How did we decide, let's kill these babies?
[00:19:42] Speaker B: Yeah, well, let's.
[00:19:44] Speaker A: Quick.
[00:19:44] Speaker B: Like right now. And thankfully, I think we are hopefully headed in a good direction as a nation to try to get rid of abortion. But within the last, within our lifetimes, abortion has just become this accepted thing. Right.
I used to listen to NPR back when I was foolish and still thought that something like NPR was somewhat neutral.
It's not.
[00:20:06] Speaker A: Wait, wait, wait, wait. You mean they're biased? Yeah, sorry.
[00:20:09] Speaker B: You know that Nancy Pearcey was supposed to go on an NPR episode to talk about abortion, but when she did like a pre interview and they realized how smart she was and how, how much she was against abortion, they canceled her appearance on npr.
[00:20:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Because she was going to wreck shop with them.
[00:20:24] Speaker B: Yeah. But in, in my time of let's go, Nance, There were always semi regular bits about abortion and it was always in favor of abortion. It was always, you know, how in 2025 or whenever I was listening to it, are we not allowing women to have the right to, you know, kill their own babies?
It was always in support of it. But they started saying the, the quiet things out loud. They couldn't, they couldn't help it. There was a. After the Roe v. Wade was overturned, there was a segment that an abortion doctor was talking about how she was afraid she was gonna lose her job.
Amen.
We would hope that they would lose their jobs.
[00:21:02] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:21:03] Speaker B: But they were saying things. She was saying things like, if we're going to call abortion health care, then we got to make sure our clinics actually look like a health care provider. So they're basically describing how they were going to try to, you know, orient the waiting room and the process of getting checked in and things like that. They're going to try to emulate kind of a hospital setting because the feel needed to fit the narrative.
It's crazy. They were really.
[00:21:30] Speaker A: So it didn't.
[00:21:32] Speaker B: Yeah, it didn't.
Everyone knows what abortion is deep down, and we've just gotten, in our modern era so comfortable with the false identifiers like healthcare and things like that.
They can't help but say the quiet things out loud sometimes. And I thought it was fascinating listening to some of these segments where they were. Yeah, they were really saying the quiet things out loud. But let's go back a little bit.
[00:21:57] Speaker A: It looks like a murder factory.
[00:21:58] Speaker B: Yeah, it looks like a murder factory.
Many places are just terrible.
They're all terrible, but some of them look terrible and are unsafe and all those things. But they know what's going on there.
So let's go back to Margaret Sanger, the original racist.
Well, yeah, basically.
Look, Darwin was only like 60 years before this publishing the Origin of Species Which. In which he talks about, you know, the favored races and such. But you fast forward a generation and a half and you get to Margaret Sanger when. When Darwinistic thinking has kind of diffused out into culture and academia a bit more, and you end up getting the eugenics movement. Places like the United States were getting into eugenics.
[00:22:46] Speaker A: Well, Darwin set the stage for it. Absolutely. Well, like the Origin of Species or the alternative title, which nobody talks about. The preservation of favored races.
Look, come on. Like, he set the stage. You know, he set the stage for eugenics. Of course it came.
[00:23:06] Speaker B: Yep. So. So Margaret Sanger, she was an early advocate for, you know, birth control and eugenics. And she started, along with her sister, I believe it was the American Birth Control League, which eventually came bir the Birth Control Federation of America. And she was still involved with that organization, the Birth Control Federation of America, when, in 1942, it became planned Parenthood.
She didn't like the name change, but she was still there. She was one of the decision makers at Planned Parenthood when it was basically when it was founded. So this is one of the founders of the modern organization Planned Parenthood. And let's talk about what this was set up to do. It was set up.
[00:23:52] Speaker A: It was set up to provide health care to women.
Right, David, Wasn't that the whole point?
[00:23:58] Speaker B: Something like that. Something like that, yeah. No, it was meant to eliminate the unfit.
[00:24:06] Speaker A: Y' all just sit on that for just a second. Like, this is real life.
This is 100% real life. It is a eugenics plant. That's its implementation.
We're not health care in anybody here.
We're killing people.
[00:24:23] Speaker B: Do you want to hear a quote?
[00:24:24] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:24:24] Speaker B: Well, like, maybe first. So what eugenics looked like early in the United States and several states started doing this. It looked like forcible sterilization.
[00:24:33] Speaker A: So they would like with the Native Americans. Yeah.
[00:24:36] Speaker B: I don't know if it included too many Native Americans at that point. Maybe it mostly talked about people who were thought to have some sort of mental illness or disability.
When you start viewing. Tying back to Darwin, when you start viewing humans not as image bearers who can be redeemed, and there's trajectories for our lives and intention and purpose, and there can be fruitfulness.
You look at something like a mental illness or.
[00:25:06] Speaker A: Or genetic condition.
[00:25:07] Speaker B: Genetic condition. Or you commit crimes. They saw those as genetic traits that would be inherently passed down to the next generation. So they figured, we want to weed out the weeds. They would call them weeds, too. They want to get rid of the weeds in society, which means people who they deemed unfit and favor the races that they saw as more fit or the people that they saw as more fit. And so things like forced sterilization would take place. Something like 60,000 occurred in the United States around that time. I think the state that did the most was in California, mostly in, like, mental institutions, but.
But elsewhere as well, criminals, things like that.
So they were basically, again, it's an example of playing God, determining who is fit and unfit. And there's a racial element here as well. So you want to hear this quote from Margaret Sanger?
[00:25:56] Speaker A: Yeah, hit me.
[00:25:57] Speaker B: When she was writing to a fellow eugenicist, she writes, we do not want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population.
[00:26:11] Speaker A: Sorry.
[00:26:12] Speaker B: And now here was the thing.
[00:26:13] Speaker A: It's so on the nose.
So on the nose.
[00:26:15] Speaker B: Just some clarification. I want to give the context so people don't accuse us of being, you know, taking something out of context.
[00:26:20] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:26:21] Speaker B: And the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of the more rebellious members.
So here was the plan.
They saw the poor as unfit, and she also saw the black population as generally unfit.
Now, what she's saying here is that they're going to basically employ ministers, pastors, people who they can kind of employ to this eugenics idea to be the message bringers for them to the black populations.
And what she's saying is we don't want them to get the wrong idea that we're just trying to eliminate the black population, so we're going to let the word come from their own people.
But then she concludes with this idea that maybe we're trying to eliminate the black population could occur to some of their more rebellious members.
It's pretty plain what they're trying to do.
And it's pretty plain today that that is what Planned Parenthood is accomplishing. The vast majority of abortions are black babies that are being killed.
I say the vast majority. It's like 40%.
So not the majority, but 40% for a population that makes up about 13% of the United States. So it's a disproportionately large amount of black babies that are being killed, which is basically what Margaret Sanger and the eugenicists of the early 1900s set out to do.
[00:27:52] Speaker A: What they were chasing.
[00:27:53] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:27:54] Speaker A: Well, yeah. So Darwin shows up, talks about destroying races. Margaret Sanger says, I have a plan.
Let's execute this bad boy. And then the. The mechanisms are deployed now, and this was it has been deployed in a lot of different ways. Like, we referenced forced sterilizations earlier. That was with Native Americans in, like, the 60s and the 70s.
Like, that was a. That was a pattern that was happening to eliminate a people group. Yeah, right. Like, we're going after this particular.
We're trying to delete. We're going to push the delete button over here.
And it's still going on today.
People are trying to kill black people still. They're going after them. This is very much a racial issue.
And there are some who recognize and are, like, trying to work against that. Now, I've talked to people locally who, whenever the abortion issue was happening in Appaloosas, they were. They were willing to at least say, hey, this is a problem and we need to figure something out.
And that's great. I think things are moving in a good direction in that sense. But it's very much a. Let's kill what they would believe in their racially construed minds. What the bad guys would believe in their racially construed minds are lesser humans. Let's kill the lesser people, the lesser class people. That's just straight up evil.
[00:29:21] Speaker B: Hear this quote also from Margaret Sanger. I wish to take advantage of the present opportunity to point out that the unbalance between the birth rate of the unfit and. And the fit, admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization, can never be rectified by the inauguration of a cradle competition between these two classes.
[00:29:41] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:29:41] Speaker B: Basically, she's saying, hey, those poor and foreign or, you know, darker complected people are having more babies than us.
[00:29:53] Speaker A: We got to kill.
[00:29:54] Speaker B: Can't let that happen.
[00:29:55] Speaker A: Wow.
Wow.
[00:29:57] Speaker B: That's what she's saying.
[00:29:58] Speaker A: And this is just so anti Christian, just in its fundamentals.
Partiality, you know, James, chapter two, verse one, right out of the gate. Do not show partiality.
And this is nothing but partiality. Racism is a. Is a partiality preference, and that's some deep wickedness. Do not murder.
But also the idea that because someone is deemed to have lower intelligence, they're worth less, that's insane.
That's not how this works.
The Bible tells us that the disciples themselves, the first 12, the 12 apostles who were sent by Jesus to change the world, which the Bible makes comments about them. These men are turning the world upside down. It says.
The Bible also says that they were ordinary, unschooled men, which means they weren't that bright.
Okay.
[00:30:54] Speaker B: And they would fit this category if we're going to make an ancient comparison. They were fishermen, predominantly poor.
[00:31:02] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:31:02] Speaker B: They would have fit this category of unfit.
Yeah, it would have been this unfit category. Who should be forcibly sterilized and whatever else.
[00:31:11] Speaker A: And this is who the Lord used.
This is.
Yeah. A distinctly unchristian argument.
And Christians should be able to say, no, that's not how this works. That's not the way that it looks. So what do you have anything else? This is fascinating to me.
[00:31:29] Speaker B: Yeah. So some other examples in the United States of things like eugenics. In short, you can look up some of the specific people. But there was an overlap between American eugenics and German eugenics. And this is all before the Nazis, but basically.
[00:31:43] Speaker A: Oh, this is Pre World War II.
[00:31:44] Speaker B: Pre World War II. So 20s and 30s, there was a lot of legislation related to eugenics, forced sterilization, things like that. In the United States, we actually kind of led the way in eugenics.
[00:31:54] Speaker A: Yikes.
[00:31:54] Speaker B: The Germans loved what we were doing. They loved our work, and they loved Margaret Sanger. And they.
[00:32:01] Speaker A: I bet they did.
[00:32:02] Speaker B: They took it and ran with it.
[00:32:03] Speaker A: The Nazis, specifically.
[00:32:05] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And by 1933, of course, the Nazis had taken control in Germany. And so we were collaborating with Nazis in the 30s. I say we. I mean, certain academics and people that were advocating for these, you know, eugenics laws and things like that. Many of those laws were passed. For example, you know, you weren't allowed to, in certain states, marry interracially, for example. That was an outplaying of some of these eugenics laws.
So, wow, sorry, wife of mine. We couldn't.
We couldn't have gotten married in certain states in the early 1900s.
[00:32:41] Speaker A: There neither you and your wife, nor me and mine. Like, this is insane.
Yeah.
[00:32:46] Speaker B: So that was one thing. And maybe just in summary, we.
When the. When the Nazis came to power and they applied the eugenics movement more overtly. Right. They said, oh, well, we have this race that we believe unfit. Right. And is a. Is a weed in society. The same language that the Americans were using, the same language that Margaret Sanger was using.
They took it a step further and carried out the Holocaust.
And that did turn the world against eugenics a bit, understandably.
[00:33:22] Speaker A: Praise God.
[00:33:23] Speaker B: Yeah, praise God. But in the United States, we just basically adopted this slightly softened version called abortion.
And it grew in the 60s and 70s. No accident that it grew out of the sexual revolution.
One important thing we could touch on quick is a reminder that sex is for babies.
We as a society have totally separated the act of sex from childbearing. It has become only an individualistic, pleasurable thing that is to be pursued separate from family and childbearing.
And when you disconnect those things, then when babies inevitably come along, you want a way out.
[00:34:09] Speaker A: Well. And it's also fun.
So a full Christian ethic would say, sex is a good gift from God.
[00:34:16] Speaker B: Amen.
[00:34:17] Speaker A: That he has given us. And it is fun and enjoyable, and he made it that way. Go read Song of Songs.
There's a reason that Adam sang a song the first time he saw Eve
[00:34:28] Speaker B: would have been an exciting moment.
[00:34:31] Speaker A: Whoa.
[00:34:32] Speaker B: God said, be fruitful and multiply.
[00:34:34] Speaker A: He's been like, let's go, let's go.
[00:34:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:38] Speaker A: So it's a good gift from God. He's given it to us, and it creates fruit.
Out of the fruitfulness of marriage comes the fruit of children.
And that's good and. Right. That's the way that God has made it to work.
We've radically individualized ourselves and decided, no, they're not going to do that anymore. Sex is only for pleasure. Right. So we've taken it and we've made it narcissistic. It's only for me.
It's only about what I want.
It's only for pleasure. And we've killed the fruit that comes off of it.
[00:35:17] Speaker B: Literally.
[00:35:17] Speaker A: Literally, yeah. And so we. We can't. Can't do that. It has a design, has a purpose behind it, and it's good and it's right.
Make babies, go forth, be fruitful, multiply,
[00:35:28] Speaker B: marry the earth, and then get married.
[00:35:30] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, sorry. Yeah. I should say that, you know. Thank you for providing that clarification. Absolutely. Yeah. Get married, have babies. The beauty that we are presenting here is what. What should be.
What should be fruitful households that love the Lord and bear lots of children.
And those households, if you read Church history, are not households that just decide to get rid of the weak ones.
Right.
Go look at what happened with the Church in Rome.
Whenever people put babies out to die, the Church would go scoop them up. Literally. The weak ones are put out to die of exposure by people who don't want them. And the Church came along and scooped them up and kept them.
That's not the death of the weak. That's not the chosen death of the weak. That is instead the help, the assistance, the care for those who are weak. And that's the posture and position of the Church. And that's the way that God has sent us out to conquer the world.
We conquer the world primarily through fruitful families and fruitful households.
And we do lots of other fun things along the way. But the main gauntlet, that's Thrown down is the Christian family and the church.
This is. This is what we're here to do.
[00:36:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:53] Speaker A: So do it.
[00:36:54] Speaker B: So. So fight the sin. Fight the idolizing of sex and the. The pursuit of it only for pleasure.
Fight abortion. Fight the killing of the innocent.
[00:37:05] Speaker A: Amen.
[00:37:05] Speaker B: Those being taken away to the slaughter.
[00:37:06] Speaker A: Do it on a local level.
[00:37:08] Speaker B: Yep. And a national level. But, yeah, obviously you have more. More control local and then pursue the. The good, which is what. What you're describing here.
[00:37:15] Speaker A: Good, fruitful, faithful lives.
[00:37:17] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:37:17] Speaker A: Our.
[00:37:17] Speaker B: Our population in the United States should.
That's another. That's. That's the topic of another episode. Probably, but we should. We should probably be having babies within families at higher than a replacement rate, wouldn't you say?
Right now we're. We're not. We're not keeping up.
[00:37:34] Speaker A: Oh, man. There's so many things that we can talk about right now.
[00:37:36] Speaker B: We've written. Have time for all that.
[00:37:38] Speaker A: Well, guys, thank you all so much for listening to another episode of the Parish Circuit. We're glad that you have tuned in and followed along, and we're especially glad for those of you who have subscribed and shared and liked and followed and sent us money.
Yeah, the funding aspect is a huge deal, and we appreciate those of you that have come alongside and decided this is worthwhile as of recording today, Dave, we have over half a million views throughout the last several months since we started doing this, and we have. I think it's near 500 listens.
And we have.
What is it, a thousand.
[00:38:19] Speaker B: Little over a thousand.
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